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Similar reservations about the use of creeds can be found in the Restoration Movement and its descendants, the Christian Church Disciples of Christ , the Churches of Christ , and the Christian churches and churches of Christ. Restorationists profess "no creed but Christ".

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Bishop John Shelby Spong , retired Episcopal Bishop of Newark, has written that dogmas and creeds were merely "a stage in our development" and "part of our religious childhood. That is idolatry. Many people said the Apostles Creed , but they understood what it was saying and what they meant by that quite differently. No matter how hard they tried, they could not close out this perennial debate. They cannot establish a consensus and they could not agree on the meaning of that phrase which had been once "delivered to the saints.

Nor did they understand that the tighter and more specific their words became, the less they would achieve the task of unifying the church. All creeds have ever done is to define those who are outside, who were not true believers; and thus their primarily achievement has been to set up eternal conflict between the "ins" and the "outs," a conflict that has repeatedly degenerated into the darkest sort of Christian behavior, including imperialism, torture, persecution, death and war.

In the Swiss Reformed Churches , there was a quarrel about the Apostles' Creed in the midth century. As a result, most cantonal reformed churches stopped prescribing any particular creed. Whether Judaism is creedal in character has generated some controversy. Rabbi Milton Steinberg wrote that "By its nature Judaism is averse to formal creeds which of necessity limit and restrain thought" and asserted in his book Basic Judaism that "Judaism has never arrived at a creed.

Others, [ who? A notable statement of Jewish principles of faith was drawn up by Maimonides as his 13 Principles of Faith. The shahada , the two-part statement that "There is no god but God; Muhammad is the messenger of God" is often popularly called "the Islamic creed" and its utterance is one of the "five pillars". From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Statement of belief. For other uses, see Articles of Faith disambiguation. This article is about a statement of belief. For other uses, see Creed disambiguation. Jesus Christ. Jesus in Christianity Virgin birth Crucifixion Resurrection appearances.

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See also: Credo. Main article: List of Christian creeds. See also: Jewish principles of faith. This section needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. Exploring and Proclaiming the Apostles' Creed. Accessed: 17 May Ismail Mohr.

Gonzalez, The Story of Christianity , 2nd ed. Higgins Philadelphia: Westminster, p. Stewart Edinburgh: Saint Andrew, p. I think that the value of the confessions is in providing a consensus summary, by the church, on what the Word teaches about salvation. It comes down to the circumcision of the heart by the Spirit, which is personal, and a matter of conscience before God. Clark describes it. I still wonder how many of the Elect of the NT Church age would be able to meet the exacting standards for a credible profession of faith established by modern highly literate theological standards.

I take comfort in the fact that God is the final Judge. The Christian religion is a literate religion, based on the propositions for salvation revealed by the Spirit of God through His Word.

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We are responsible for understanding what God reveals to us by diligent reading and study of His Word. All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness.


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Our Lord left us with a reasonable standard. It is similar reasonable doubt standard in law Not imperically but reasonably. The church confirms within reasonable standards. We frequently say things when for instance how men refuse to believe the gospel because of the hardness of their hearts as the scripture does also. When someone says they repent but continues in the sin we determine they have unrepentant hearts. Inferring is the key and the church is commanded to do so accordingly.

As a result many of them believed, as did also a number of prominent Greek women and many Greek men. That requires being literate. But God has provided the Elect the ability to recognize saving truth through the foolishness of preaching. I said that to ensure what you are hearing is true, you need to compare it to the written Word, I did not say literacy is a requirement for being granted saving faith.

To ensure that it is, you must compare it to the written Word. That is where the Holy Spirit speaks to you, so you may recognize saving faithful preaching, to confirm that what you hear preached is true. Where do we find reliable prophecies and truth, which is what I understand by what is good, except in the infallible Word of God? Someone being granted saving faith by God does not require being literate so that the person can authenticate what is being preached is true.

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God will not grant saving faith to a person who is not hearing the true gospel. But when there is true gospel being preached and God grants the hearer saving faith then that pure gospel is self authenticating.

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So all the passages about self examination, testing the spirits, and being aware that there are many false prophets gone out in the world are unnecessary because, as you know, the gospel being preached is true and self authenticating. Angela: All those passages about self examination, testing the spirits, and being aware that there are many false prophets gone out in the world are for those who are already believers.

The unbeliever is incapable of doing any of those things because he is spiritually dead. My point is very narrow. When an illiterate person hears preaching, if they are among the Elect and the time is right, God will grant them the faith to believe if they are hearing a true gospel message. After that they need to be discipled by the Word of God. An illiterate person is at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to being discipled but there is no disadvantage in the matter of his conversion. You are absolutely right, an unregenerate person cannot believe. It is the Holy Spirit that causes the person to come to true faith through the Word.

So it is a fact that there are many people who have a false assurance of salvation. That is why it is crucial that those who think they have saving faith test themselves by the Word of God. The Word will only ever be profitable to the Elect. Getting back to the creed… I had a friend ask me to help him write a simple statement of faith yet one that distinguised their beliefs from other groups such a Roman Catholics. I suggested the apostles creed.

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